1. I think an argument against competitive alternatives on the basis of an incumbent industry's economic interest is, to say the least....weak.
The Israeli textbook industry is a racket. This thread would not be happening if our children would be learning from standard paper textbooks. Virtually all of the K12 educational content from math to science to language was invented over 100 years ago - which means that there is no functional justification to recreate the content in different forms (workbooks, experimental programs etc...) every year and throw out the content just to generate more revenue for the folks who feed off the Ministry of Education pork barrels.
Israel can save billions by using and recycling standard paper textbooks. I'm talking about impact on family budget, if you factor in impact on the environment of throwing out 5-10 million workbooks every year- then it looks really bad. After we standardize, then we can talk about a OKLP project (One Kindle per Little Person) project.
2. To set the record straight: there are free digital content (i.e. music and video) business models. All of the artists on MySpace music, Garageband and now the big studios provide free content as a way of promoting live performances, movie tickets and paid-for content - whether in a VOD subscription model, pay per track or pay per view.
3. The Israeli Ministry of Education is teaching technology in the classroom instead of using technology to teach. The worst example I can think of is (and I kid you not) a program in first grade to teach children how to use Microsoft Windows Paint.....
Danny
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Jonathan Ben Avraham
On Tue, 8 Sep 2009, Dov Grobgeld wrote:
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 09:40:58 +0300
From: Dov Grobgeld
To: Jonathan Ben Avraham
Cc: ILUG
Subject: Re: eTextBooks (for kids)
That argument is like the arguments against writing free software because it
will put the software vendors out of business. It is clear that the interest
No, it's a very different argument. The correct analogy here is music. The content market is not the same as the sotware market. There is a free software market, but there is no free content market. And the main reason is that there is a revenue model for free software, but no revenue model for free content.
- yba
of the consumer is to have the information available for free, and if
someone wants to volunteer their time to provide this information for free,
then all the more respect to them. Of course this will make the publishers
unhappy, and they'll have to compete harder to have someone pay for their
work.
But this is all hypothetical as I have yet to hear about any such project.
Regards,
Dov
2009/9/8 Jonathan Ben Avraham
Hi All,
Don't forget that there is a large industry of authors and publishers who
make their living on the current paper book model. Like music, this is a
content market whose reason for existence is payment for content.
I think that a better idea for a free education project in this direction
would be an online publishing house the would sell kindle style versions of
the current content offering.
Regards,
- yba
On Mon, 7 Sep 2009, Dov Grobgeld wrote:
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 21:22:37 +0300
From: Dov Grobgeld
To: Dotan Cohen
Cc: linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
Subject: Re: eTextBooks (for kids)
This reminds me of a "public service" project that I have thought about
for
some time. It would be nice if someone created some free (as in license)
books that would pass the requirements of the education ministry. These
could then be downloaded as e-books or printed, copied partially,
photocopied, translated, modified, read in audioform, etc, which would be
a
great service to the all kids and parents.
Just my 2 ag,
Dov
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 14:06, Dotan Cohen
Is there a place to buy electronic versions of textbooks for (israeli)
school children?
The schools don't have places for kids to keep their books on premises,
so
they have to schlep all their books all day long. They are heavy. I'd
rather they carried a small laptop or e-book reader.
Any ideas?
You are ahead of your time. What grade are the kids in? You should
know that the books are likely used for more than reading, for
instance they may have to write in the book.
You should also know that Education Ministry limits the sacks on one's
back to 10% of their body weight. If your kid's books and a reasonable
pack exceed this, complain to the school management. Keep us informed.
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